Pybots success stories and a call for help

Any report of the death of the Pybots project is an exaggeration. But not by much. First, some history.

Some history

The idea behind the Pybots project is to allow people to run automated tests for their Python projects, while using Python binaries built from the very latest source code from the Python subversion repository.

The idea originated from Glyph, of Twisted fame. He sent out a message to the python-dev mailing list in which he said:
"I would like to propose, although I certainly don't have time to implement, a program by which Python-using projects could contribute buildslaves which would run their projects' tests with the latest Python trunk. This would provide two useful incentives: Python code would gain a reputation as generally well-tested (since there is a direct incentive to write tests for your project: get notified when core python changes might break it), and the core developers would have instant feedback when a "small" change breaks more code than it was expected to."

This was back in July 2006. I volunteered to maintain a buildbot master (running on a server belonging to the PSF) and also to rally a community of people interested in running this type of tests. The hard part was (and still is) to find people willing to donate client machines to act as build slaves for a particular project, and even more so people willing to keep up with the status of their build slaves. The danger here, as in any continuous integratin system, is that once the status turns to red and doesn't go back to green, people start to ignore the failed steps. Even if those steps exhibit new and interesting failures, it's too late at this point (this is related to the broken windows theory).

The project starting fairly strong, gained some momentum, but then slowly ran out of steam. It was a combination of me not having the time to do the rallying, and of people not being interested in participating in the project anymore. At the height of its momentum, in early 2007, the Pybots farm consisted of 11 buildslaves running automated tests for more than 20 Python projects, including Twisted, Django, SQLAlchemy, MySQLdb, Bazaar, nose, twill, Storm, Trac, CherryPy, Genshi, Roundup. Pretty much a who's who of the Python project world.

Early success stories

Here are some examples of bugs discovered by the buildslaves in the Python farm:
  • new keywords 'as' and 'with' in Python 2.6 causing problems for projects that had variables with those names
  • Python install step failing even though all unit tests were passing (this underscores the importance of functional testing)
  • platform-specific issues -- for example Bazaar issues on Windows due to TCP client behavior, Twisted issues on Red Hat 9 due to multicast behavior, Python core issues on OS X due to string formatting errors
(for a more thorough overview of the Pybots project, including lessons learned, see also my PyCon07 presentation)

Recent signs of life and more success stories

In the last month or so there has been a flurry of activity related to the Pybots farm. It all started with an upgrade of the buildbot version on the machine hosting the Pybots buildmaster. This broke the master's configuration file, so the Pybots status page went completely dark.

As a result, Steve Holden posted a plea for help answered by a few people who showed interest in adding build slaves to the project. In parallel, Jean-Paul Calderone jumped in to help on the buildmaster side and he managed to fix the buildbot upgrade issue (thanks, JP!) David Stanek also expressed interest in taking a more active role on the buildmaster side.

Jean-Paul also sent more success stories to the Pybots mailing list. Here they are, verbatim, with his permission:

"The skip story:

The Twisted pybots slave started skipping every Twisted test one day. I noticed and filed (which goes into a bit of detail about why this happened). This happened to come up during the PyCon language summit, so there was some real-time discussion about it, resulting in a Python bug being filed, Then, as that ticket shows, Benjamin Peterson was nice enough to fix the incompatibility.

The array/buffer story:

The Twisted pybots slave started to fail some Twisted tests one day. ;) The tests in question were actually calling into some PyCrypto code, so this failure wasn't in Twisted directly. PyCrypto loads some bytes into an array.array and then tries to hash them (for some part of its random pool API). I filed on which someone explained that hashlib switched over to the new buffer API, lost support for hashing anything that only provides the old buffer API, and that array.array still only supports the old buffer API. This one hasn't been fixed yet, but it sounds like Gregory Smith plans to fix it before 2.7 is released.

There are other success stories too, incompatible changes that are more like bugs on the Twisted side than on the Python side (assuming one is generous and believes that incompatible changes in Python can actually be Twisted bugs ;). Things like typos that didn't result in syntax errors in an older version of Python but became syntax errors in newer versions (in particular, a variable was defined as 0x+80000000 instead of 0x80000000 - the former actually being valid syntax in 2.5 but became illegal in 2.6)."

My hope is that stories like these will convince more people about the usefulness of running tests for their projects against 'live' changes in the Python trunk (or other Python branches). I am not aware of any other testing project that accomplishes this for other programming languages.

In particular, if there is enough interest, we can also configure the Pybots master to trigger test runs for your project of choice using Py3k binaries! Think how cool you'll appear to your grandchildren!

How you can help

If you want to be involved in the Pybots project, please subscribe to the Pybots mailing list and show your interest by sending a message to the list. Here are some resources to get you started:


Michael Foord said…
Your link to the "importance of functional testing" is to a draft page not accessible to the mere public. :-)
Grig Gheorghiu said…
Ooops, thanks Michael! Corrected.


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